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Ideas for Custom King/Cobia Rodpikil06Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 Ideas for Custom King/Cobia Rod -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a custom Mitchell 302 with PUM, crosswind and penn drag and i need a rod for king and cobia What im thinking is a rod (or get a rod made) with a gator glass med/hev 8' black blank (like a U696H) (unless i can find a nice graphite seeker, st croix or lami for cheap). Perfer Red wrap and foam grip. 12" on the butt and 6" foregrip. stainless: 65mm collector, 55 Fuji aluminum oxide: 35,30,15 Fuji silicone carbide: 12mm tip Let me know any ideas or suggestions on the rod or rod makers that can do this 
Thanks! Nick __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #2 12-10-2008, 12:22 PM snobbler Mad Skills Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pensacola, Fl Posts: 32 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I saw a nice 8' lami blank for sale yesterday, i'll get the guys information to you if you are interested. __________________ -Chris- _____________________________________________________________ #3 12-10-2008, 12:40 PM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does it have to be an 8 footer? If not get a Gator T90L. They are real popular among the Pcola pier guys. Obie has built quite a few of them for people and the blanks are readily available. The 8 ft version of this blank I believe is the T80L. __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #4 12-10-2008, 12:44 PM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wait. Sorry about that. I meant to say T90H and T80H. __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #5 12-10-2008, 12:50 PM snobbler Mad Skills Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pensacola, Fl Posts: 32 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After using both the T90L and T90H, I would go with the T90L for a Cobia/King blank. Its exellent for throwing king baits and still has enough backbone to really work on a cobia. I've caught many kings and cobia with the T90L (including the one pictured below) and I am very impressed with the rod you get for the money. __________________ -Chris- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by snobbler; 12-10-2008 at 12:57 PM. _____________________________________________________________ #6 12-10-2008, 12:53 PM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah thanks for that Chris! I'm a little confused. I don't own either the T90H or T90L but I do know they are really popular around here. For some reason I thought the T90L was a small bait King rod. Anyways, you cleared it up. My bad. I always assume that a big bait King rod will double as a Cobia rod. But a small bait King rod would not. __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #7 12-10-2008, 12:53 PM jace Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: pensacola, Florida Posts: 904 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Calvin Does it have to be an 8 footer? If not get a Gator T90L. They are real popular among the Pcola pier guys. Obie has built quite a few of them for people and the blanks are readily available. The 8 ft version of this blank I believe is the T80L. he is building me one right now _____________________________________________________________ #8 12-10-2008, 12:55 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah i was looking at the T80H but it shows as a Med Slow action, which would be great for slinging ciggys, but i wanna double it as cobia rod as well for throwin jigs, so opted to the U696H with Moderate Fast Action. I would also assume that the U696H is lighter because it only rates up to 30# where as the the T80H is at 40#. __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #9 12-10-2008, 12:57 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For ref, ill be using 17# mono on a spool and 30# superline on another spool. Superline when jigging. __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #10 12-10-2008, 12:58 PM jace Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: pensacola, Florida Posts: 904 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by pikil06 Yeah i was looking at the T80H but it shows as a Med Slow action, which would be great for slinging ciggys, but i wanna double it as cobia rod as well for throwin jigs, so opted to the U696H with Moderate Fast Action. I would also assume that the U696H is lighter because it only rates up to 30# where as the the T80H is at 40#. i have never used a t80h but i know t90h is one of the go to rods for a lot of people for cobes. _____________________________________________________________ #11 12-10-2008, 01:02 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- now the T90L could be a good choice @ 30# and medium action... __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #12 12-10-2008, 01:22 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone know if Fujis ergonomic seat (DNPSD) could fit a mitchell 302? __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #13 12-10-2008, 01:26 PM Jigslinger Super Moderator... Sounds important don't it! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 486 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While we're talking about Gators, I'm going to be ordering T90L and a T90H blanks in a couple weeks (like I need them!) and was wondering if yall cut them down any or leave them full length. I know it's probably been said on here before but any help would be appreciated. I'll try to remember it this time. __________________ Rob _____________________________________________________________ #14 12-10-2008, 01:29 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- id like to get the T90L down to 8' but how how would that affect overall performance? __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #15 12-10-2008, 01:31 PM lingfisher1 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Indian Ford (just north of Milton) Posts: 92 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I left mine full length and I am almost sure the rest do too __________________ Ryan Kill'em all.The grill don't know the difference. _____________________________________________________________ #16 12-10-2008, 01:32 PM snobbler Mad Skills Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pensacola, Fl Posts: 32 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Go with a T80L, its the same blank cut down to 8 feet. I'm on the phone with Ernie right now and he says rumor has it that Gator is going to sell out so if you can find a blank get your hands on it. __________________ -Chris- _____________________________________________________________ #17 12-10-2008, 01:37 PM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by snobbler I'm on the phone with Ernie right now and he says rumor has it that Gator is going to sell out so if you can find a blank get your hands on it. Is that right? Here goes the run on Gator blanks. Obie, how many 9 ft L and H blanks do you have left? I'd like to buy one of each if they are still available. http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Catalog/Gator-Glass_2 http://shop.rodroom.com/index.php?cP...3941915007e420 __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #18 12-10-2008, 01:40 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- T80L shows medium slow action, think that would still be ok for jiggin cobia? __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #19 12-10-2008, 01:48 PM snobbler Mad Skills Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pensacola, Fl Posts: 32 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With the slower action I dont know how much it would affect casting or jigging. I would be intersted in Obie's insight on that __________________ -Chris- _____________________________________________________________ #20 12-10-2008, 01:53 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yeah and another question would be, does cutting the T90L 9' down to an 8' change the action as much as the difference between the action of the T80L and T90L? The T80L is also listed as a bottom rod, so it may be just designed different then the T90L. assuming just the name difference i think they are the same, just different lengths, giving different actions because of a shorter butt length (not as thick on the end). but i dont know anything about making rods, but i want to learn.. __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #21 12-10-2008, 01:58 PM snobbler Mad Skills Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pensacola, Fl Posts: 32 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From what I unsderstand cutting a foot off of a T90L will give it that slow medium action of a T80L. I havent fooled around with enough of them to find a "sweet spot" but I'm sure you can vary the lengths removed from the tip and the butt to get it closer to the action you are looking for. __________________ -Chris- _____________________________________________________________ #22 12-10-2008, 02:02 PM T.MASS Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gulf Breeze Posts: 157 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I know that a lot of the gator T90l's that people have at the pier have been cut taking 6in off making it an 8 1/2ft rod that seems to work very well. I have a T90l that is full length but I think the 8 1/2 has better action for both a cobia jig and throwing king baits. Take 3 off the tip and 3 off the butt. _____________________________________________________________ #23 12-10-2008, 02:04 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ahh, very nice, thanks for that info any thoughts on my guide setup? stainless, no stainless? 65mm too big, too small? what about 12 on the tip? __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #24 12-10-2008, 02:55 PM fishhead0429 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 274 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i tried to buy that reel _____________________________________________________________ #25 12-10-2008, 02:56 PM salt_life18 RED-ZONE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: navarre,fl navarre peir, p,cola peir, in the woods! Posts: 275 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Calvin Is that right? Here goes the run on Gator blanks. Obie, how many 9 ft L and H blanks do you have left? I'd like to buy one of each if they are still available. i'll take 2 T90L's if you got 'em ! _____________________________________________________________ #26 12-10-2008, 03:03 PM Jigslinger Super Moderator... Sounds important don't it! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 486 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, there goes another 130 bucks I didn't need to spend right now! While I was ordering and paying the shipping I bought 2 Mudhole Value E-Glass blanks in black, model #'s SPSWB8M and SPSWB8H. Figured I'd try them. They're 8' blanks. Cheap. __________________ Rob _____________________________________________________________ #27 12-10-2008, 03:45 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's my opinion. If you want an 8 foot rod buy an 8 foot blank. The Gator T series rods seem to be perfect in the length they come. T90L's are not small bait king rods, I use mine to throw hardtails and spanish mackeral for baits. They have a nice size 10 tip and will work a jig fine for ling. T90H's have a size 12 tip with a little less tip action then the L, both blanks have a moderate parabolic bend. I have two Gators built up that I fish so I'm personally good to go. I also have only one Gator blank left (T90H) and it's for me. I just received a T90L in the mail but it's for Jace and is sitting on the rod wrapper waiting on the humidity to come back down. As for Gator does selling out mean going out of business or just selling to a new owner, I guess only time will tell. 
__________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #28 12-10-2008, 03:50 PM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jace is going to have a bad ass rod from the looks of it. __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #29 12-10-2008, 03:54 PM snobbler Mad Skills Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pensacola, Fl Posts: 32 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the conversation Ernie had with Kathy Gator is selling out to Chaos Rods, but Chaos will not pick up manufacturing of the gator blanks. __________________ -Chris- _____________________________________________________________ #30 12-10-2008, 03:57 PM Jigslinger Super Moderator... Sounds important don't it! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 486 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nice looking job Obie. How'd you talk him into those colors? __________________ Rob _____________________________________________________________ #31 12-10-2008, 04:00 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well in my opinion Chaos will be buying Gators rod mandrels so I suspect we'll be seeing another fiberglass rod with very similar characteristics of Gators but with a new name. But who really knows for sure. __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #32 12-10-2008, 04:01 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Jigslinger Nice looking job Obie. How'd you talk him into those colors? Hey Rob don't even try, Jace told me the colors he wanted.....but I must confess I'm proud. __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #33 12-10-2008, 04:03 PM Jigslinger Super Moderator... Sounds important don't it! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 486 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________ Rob _____________________________________________________________ #34 12-10-2008, 04:07 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Very nice obie! im looking at the red wrap as well, but i want mine i little more darker red, like maroon, maybe with some silver shine in the wrap as well. __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #35 12-10-2008, 04:13 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by pikil06 Very nice obie! im looking at the red wrap as well, but i want mine i little more darker red, like maroon, maybe with some silver shine in the wrap as well. I'm sure we can up with the appropriate crimson, I mean red color that you desire. I just ordered some of these rare Gator T90L's and T90H's, if they indeed come to my door step in the next few days I'll PM everyone who has showed interest in them. Thanks. __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #36 12-10-2008, 04:16 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sounds good obie, ill be waiting, thanks!! __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #37 12-10-2008, 04:47 PM jace Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: pensacola, Florida Posts: 904 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rod is looking great cant wait for it to be done! it looks amazing so far! _____________________________________________________________ #38 12-10-2008, 04:50 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obie, if you dont use the T90L for your small baits for kings, what do you use? or suggest using, with a 302 thats capable of doing that and coiba jigs? __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #39 12-10-2008, 04:52 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Jace, it does look nice but I can't mix the flexcoat until the humidity comes back down. When it's wet like this the flexcoat dries way to fast, so pray for dry air. __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #40 12-10-2008, 04:58 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by pikil06 Obie, if you dont use the T90L for your small baits for kings, what do you use? or suggest using, with a 302 thats capable of doing that and coiba jigs? I use the same rod for kings, small baits or big baits. It throws cigs and ly's just as good as any rod I've ever used. These things load up further down into the rod. Unlike a fast action rod which throws from the tip these animals throw from the reel seat. If you get a chance to try one you'll know what I'm talking about. __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #41 12-10-2008, 05:00 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you ever have problems throwing live bait and ciggys off when trying to load it like that? __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #42 12-10-2008, 05:04 PM jace Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: pensacola, Florida Posts: 904 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- well right now im praying for a drought so hopefully he will hear my prayers. pikil i dont think you can really get a rod that is good for jigs, big baits, and small baits. i know this t90l is going to be my big bait and jig rod and i have a lamiglass (i bought from Aaron who bought it from calvin) for small baits. i used to try to make one rod work but it really doesnt compare.my lamiglass is for slinging cigs and ly and t90l for hardtail and spanish. if your on a budget look for a good used rod this will be my first new rod i have ever bought _____________________________________________________________ #43 12-10-2008, 05:06 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No more than any other rod. I usually use 20 lb test, but have sometimes us 15. I have other rods I use for ling fishing but wouldn't hesitate to fish a Gator with 30 lb mono. Some folks use these things with 60lb braid and bend them to the max. __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #44 12-10-2008, 05:07 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yeah it will be my first king/cobia rod so im just trying to stay versitle for now on my first rod. another reason i just stuck with the van mitchell really sounds like i should just build a rod for kings that is good for the pier and build a better, T90L, when i have access to a boat.. __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #45 12-10-2008, 07:37 PM kingling Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: pensacola beach pier Posts: 1,277 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i already have a t90h and it is the greatest rod ive owned i plan on buying a t90l before kings season pikil get get your last rod first get a t90l __________________ Ben Arnold _____________________________________________________________ #46 12-10-2008, 09:41 PM salt_life18 RED-ZONE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: navarre,fl navarre peir, p,cola peir, in the woods! Posts: 275 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i've never owned one personaly but i have fished with gator blanks before, i like them. their good sturdy rods, not to much but just enough backbone to catch whatever you want. and for the price you can't beat 'em. john michal's gator is set up like you were talking about, full length with the 302 and i know it'll handle a 80+ lb tarpon. _____________________________________________________________ #47 12-10-2008, 10:34 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- im just worried about not being able to chuck ciggys out off the pier with the t90L. Maybe ill just go with a t80L. __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #48 12-10-2008, 10:47 PM salt_life18 RED-ZONE Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: navarre,fl navarre peir, p,cola peir, in the woods! Posts: 275 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by pikil06 im just worried about not being able to chuck ciggys out off the pier with the t90L. Maybe ill just go with a t80L. last time i fished with a gator i was slinging a ly and then a cig and then a small spanish, all with a T90L with no promblem. _____________________________________________________________ #49 12-10-2008, 11:09 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ok cool. thats what i needed to hear __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #50 12-11-2008, 09:45 AM nb&twil Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 465 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by snobbler According to the conversation Ernie had with Kathy Gator is selling out to Chaos Rods, but Chaos will not pick up manufacturing of the gator blanks. From what I heard, this was already done a while back. Chaos bought Gator and has been building their rods on Gator balnks for some time now. They will still manufacture blanks, but forget the prices we used to pay. Time to look for a new "go-to" inexpensive blank. |
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Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Im trying to get some ideas for this king rod project i got going on, so im trying to get some opinions from wherever i can for input. Heres some info i got from a rod builder and wanted to hear yalls take on it... " the T90L is way too soft of a rod for what you are trying to do….its basically a buggy whip. …you just need to trust me….the 696L is what you need…it will come out about 8’2” when its done…I also really think you need to stick to a 50-12 set….you don’t need one of those huge guides on the rod…I only use those rods for the huge pompano spinning reels… " I know you guys are used to fishing this area and i like facts based on experience and not so much text book. Being this is my first custom rod, let me know some thoughts, thanks! __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #52 12-11-2008, 10:10 AM nb&twil Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 465 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I apologize in advance for the length of this post... it may get long The first rod I ever built was a gator T80L and I caught my firts ling on it. It threw jig marvelously, and I king fished all summer with it and never had a problem throwing small baits. Because it has a slower action, it loads up well for throwing heavier jigs and big baits, while still eing capable of throwing small bait without throwing them off (as seems to happen with faster action rods). The gator T80L (and T90L) are probably one of the easiest decisions to make when it comes to pier fishing rod selection. They are priced well below the average, they are nearly indistructable, and mots of all, they can be used in multiple applications. Now, hopefully this will help you T80 vs T90... If you want an 8 foot rod, just get the T80. It is going to be almost the exact same blank you'll get by cutting 10-12 inches off the butt of a T90. Should be almost a mirror image, action, strength, etc. Now, deciding between H and L... I personally won't use another "H" blank. The L's are just simply "good enough" in my opinion. The H will allow you to cobia fish and that's about it. Where, the L will let you do both. From what it sounds like in reading everything so far, you would probably want a T80L. You're giving up a few inches (about 10 because the T80's are usually 98 inches and T90's are about 107-109) but it makes for an easier day holding an 8foot rod all day on the pier, or you mentioned fising from a boat, I can't stand having long rods. You just don't really need it. Now, to really rock the boat, I'll throw another blank in there for you to think about. The BS596 (also by gator) is now my favorite rod. It is listed as a lighter blank, and only like 12-20lb rating, I have fallen in love with it. I built one 2 years ago to mackerel fish with (my favorite mackerel blank of any glass rod I've ever used) and got an unexpected invite to fish a boat. Since I didn't want to take a 9ft rod, I just took this BS596 for giggles. I was very pleased with how well I could throw a jig with it. It is an extremely light (comfortable to hold all day and half the night) with plenty of strength to battle all pier fish. If you get a chance to try one, I think you'll be pleased. I talked fishhead0249 into getting one and I think he'll agree that it's a versatile rod that would cover what you want to do. And WRD (dan) has a similar rod that I built for him the he ling fished with last year. But, all that being said, it's a very imilar feel to the T80L and I think you'd be happy with either of them! Now, on to your guide selection, I would probably go with a more traditional set of wire guides. It counds like you'll be using a pretty wide range of lines, I'd stick with somewhat of a generic guide selection. Not a bad idea going with an SiC tip though. With all of these opinions, I think we'd all agree that you'll be happy with whatever rod you pick! _____________________________________________________________ #53 12-11-2008, 10:14 AM nb&twil Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 465 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 50-12 set is fine for throwing power pro or lighter (less than 20 lb) mono. But if you're going to be using 25 or 30 lb mono for cobia, I would start with no less than a 60 ring. As for the T90L being a "buggy whip" sure, someone might call it a buggy whip, but that's why we like them. They load up all the way through the blank. That's why you can chunk a king bait with it and not throw as many off. That being said, the 696 is a great blank and like I said earlier, I think you'll be happy with any of the blanks mentioned at length in this thread. The T80L, T90L, U696L, BS596.... _____________________________________________________________ #54 12-11-2008, 10:16 AM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BS596, 8', 0.875 butt, 9 sized tip, 12-20lb, Plug/ Spin, MOD.FAST sounds good, ill run it by my builders. Thanks for the info, very helpfull for my selection __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #55 12-11-2008, 10:20 AM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yeah im not too fond of high poundage mono, it just hasnt worked out well for me in the past... Most ill ever use on it is 17 mono and if its any higher then that, an oversized superbraid like 50# pp or fireline. I have a few spools for my 302 so ill have a variety to choose from for the current scenario, but mostly ill be using 17# mono starting out with the rod to get used to it. Not to mention im new with PUM's all together and well, i value my fingers __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #56 12-11-2008, 10:24 AM nb&twil Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 465 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by pikil06 yeah im not too fond of high poundage mono, it just hasnt worked out well for me in the past... Most ill ever use on it is 17 mono and if its any higher then that, an oversized superbraid like 50# pp or fireline. I have a few spools for my 302 so ill have a variety to choose from for the current scenario, but mostly ill be using 17# mono starting out with the rod to get used to it. Not to mention im new with PUM's all together and well, i value my fingers In that case, I think the 50-12 will work fine for you. I throw 16lb momoi, and it doesn't seem to have a problem getting through that 50mm at all. _____________________________________________________________ #57 12-11-2008, 10:26 AM nb&twil Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 465 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and if you're worried about your fingers, NEVER mackerel fish with any type of braid. Please, don't mackerel fish with brad.. Please please _____________________________________________________________ #58 12-11-2008, 10:29 AM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hehe, yes i know. Ill have the braid for cobia jig slinging and whatever else i may do with bigger fish, but otherwise prob 90% of the time will be 17# mono __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #59 12-11-2008, 10:39 AM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, now i need to fine tune these guides so i can start getting some quotes, tell me what you think Lets say i use the BS596 @ its stock 8'... What sizes and type of guides should i use progressively. Ill assume the builder will adjust the guides accordingly to size of the rod when the mock up is done. Heres what im thinking if i start with a 50 stainless: 50mm collector, 40 Fuji aluminum oxide: 30, 15 Fuji silicone carbide: 10mm tip I going to use an 12" butt grip and a 6" foregrip and looking like i need a size 24 fuji seat. Does anyone know if i can go any smaller on the seat then a 24, but still be able to fit a 302 on it? __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #60 12-11-2008, 10:43 AM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by nb&twil From what I heard, this was already done a while back. Chaos bought Gator and has been building their rods on Gator balnks for some time now. They will still manufacture blanks, but forget the prices we used to pay. Time to look for a new "go-to" inexpensive blank. I talked to a guy on the phone yesterday at Mud Hole and he told me the prices would remain the same. He told me this after I tried to order some Gator blanks, I wanted 2 T80L's and 2 T90L's - they were out (Obie & Rob bought them all ). He said Gator sold to another company (did not give name). He said after Christmas they would have the blanks again under a new name, identical specs, look, etc - same price. __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #61 12-11-2008, 11:41 AM Jigslinger Super Moderator... Sounds important don't it! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 486 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ouchh! I resemble that remark! I did end up with 3 of the T90L's. If you are still needing one when I get there in April Calvin, we'll talk. __________________ Rob _____________________________________________________________ #62 12-11-2008, 12:20 PM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Jigslinger Ouchh! I resemble that remark! I did end up with 3 of the T90L's. If you are still needing one when I get there in April Calvin, we'll talk. It's all good Rob. Obie told me in PM that I could get 2 from him if needed. Even though I have committed to getting those 2 from him, my focus has now shifted away from Gator. I just realized that the All Star 1087 and 1088 blanks, although not exact original, are still available but under a different name. __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #63 12-11-2008, 12:25 PM Jigslinger Super Moderator... Sounds important don't it! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 486 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, the suspense is killing me! __________________ Rob _____________________________________________________________ #64 12-11-2008, 02:11 PM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob, they are American Tackle blanks. They are not 100% identical to the original All Star blanks, as far as specs go, but they are a very close match. http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Cata...ltwater-Series http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Cata...6/Viper-Series - These look kinda cool because you have 2 color choices. __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #65 12-11-2008, 02:22 PM fishhead0429 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 274 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yeah will the 596 is a great blank for cigs and lys but i would not recomend anything heaver. you WILL hit your head. but it wont break _____________________________________________________________ #66 12-11-2008, 02:27 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yeah i think i will build that rod for kings for the pier and make a heavier T80L for cobias (im just not big on 9+ rods unless they are super casting surf rods, like my 10' st croix triumph) __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #67 12-11-2008, 02:35 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the builder i was talking to responded with If you put that guide set on that blank, not only is that not enough guides(8’ rod with 4 guides)…but that blank is much lighter that you think it is…throwing anything above 2 ½ ounces and it wont throw the way you want it to( that blank is designed for casting tackle mostly and thowing medium sized plugs for snook and the likes).….i wish you would just trust me….i have fished for cobia and kingfish my entire life….I promise I would not build you a rod that wouldn’t work for what you like… I know these blanks very well and for what you described, the set up I told you about is exactly what you need. If were to build that blank with that guide set up, you would most definitely be un happy with the rod….what model is the ergonomic seat you are talking about? he must have misread the 5 guides i listed, but thats besides the point. i think what im going to do is use the 596 for kings only and slinging ciggys and ly's and then make another rod geared more for slingin 2+ oz jigs for the cobias using the T80L or H __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #68 12-11-2008, 03:23 PM Jigslinger Super Moderator... Sounds important don't it! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 486 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Calvin. Since I rarely get down there I'll stick with the Gators for now. Maybe after I finally retire and move down there that'll change. I got 6 blanks (counting the mudhole e-glass's) for less than the cost of 2 of those so I'm happy. __________________ Rob _____________________________________________________________ #69 12-11-2008, 05:46 PM Fiver Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 109 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Calvin Rob, they are American Tackle blanks. They are not 100% identical to the original All Star blanks, as far as specs go, but they are a very close match. http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Cata...ltwater-Series http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Cata...6/Viper-Series - These look kinda cool because you have 2 color choices. hmmmm...the AV1087 and SW1087 from Calvin's link above look good. They're obviously more expensive than the Gators. Are they worth the money? _____________________________________________________________ #70 12-11-2008, 05:55 PM jace Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: pensacola, Florida Posts: 904 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by pikil06 the builder i was talking to responded with If you put that guide set on that blank, not only is that not enough guides(8’ rod with 4 guides)…but that blank is much lighter that you think it is…throwing anything above 2 ½ ounces and it wont throw the way you want it to( that blank is designed for casting tackle mostly and thowing medium sized plugs for snook and the likes).….i wish you would just trust me….i have fished for cobia and kingfish my entire life….I promise I would not build you a rod that wouldn’t work for what you like… I know these blanks very well and for what you described, the set up I told you about is exactly what you need. If were to build that blank with that guide set up, you would most definitely be un happy with the rod….what model is the ergonomic seat you are talking about? he must have misread the 5 guides i listed, but thats besides the point. i think what im going to do is use the 596 for kings only and slinging ciggys and ly's and then make another rod geared more for slingin 2+ oz jigs for the cobias using the T80L or H im not trying to be mean if you know the builder personally or anything but if he is arguing with you about how you want the rod there is a problem. i would switch builders. i mean there open to make suggestions but when you say i want this they shouldnt argue with you about it. also he may have fished for cobia and kings his entire life but how much pier fishing experience does he have? that may make a difference. _____________________________________________________________ #71 12-11-2008, 05:58 PM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Fiver hmmmm...the AV1087 and SW1087 from Calvin's link above look good. They're obviously more expensive than the Gators. Are they worth the money? The original All Star blanks were similar priced. American Tackle bought out All Star some time ago. Those American Tackle blanks are very close to All Star original but not exact. The original All Star 1087 was one of the most popular blanks of the last 15 years. I'm not gonna buy any more Gators, other than the 2 from Obie, because I want these now instead. I've had the original 1087 and 1088 before and I loved them. I'm gonna get atleast one of these soon so I will let you know. __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #72 12-11-2008, 08:12 PM nb&twil Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 465 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Rainshadow 1088 and 1087 are very similar to the all star blanks of the same numbers as well. The 1088 is extremely light, you might say too light. They lack some strength in the top half and there have been some problems with the blanks failing (breaking) with 3+ oz jigs being whipped around. The ranshadow SW1087 is a great blank. No complaints at all. And you can actually cut about 6 inches off the tip of that 1087 to make a good cobia rod. I think Ernie built a 1207 (same as 1087, but a foot longer) down about 6 off the butt and 6 off the tip to make a 9ft cobia rod and enjoyed it. _____________________________________________________________ #73 12-11-2008, 08:17 PM BigKenny Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: garcon pt Fla. Posts: 629 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey Calvin & Obie, Is a good all star say 10' worth $275.00 wrapped & ready to go? _____________________________________________________________ #74 12-11-2008, 09:29 PM nb&twil Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, TX Posts: 465 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kenny, which blank is it? Is it a custom rod, or one of their production rods? _____________________________________________________________ #75 12-11-2008, 09:46 PM BigKenny Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: garcon pt Fla. Posts: 629 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Custom built black rod like houges. _____________________________________________________________ #76 12-11-2008, 10:23 PM kingling Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: pensacola beach pier Posts: 1,277 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- if anyone would like to sell me a gator t90l i am ready to buy it calvin i think the guy that came up with roy this past year had one of those american tackle blanks he told me it was a 1088h it threw a MILE!!! __________________ Ben Arnold _____________________________________________________________ #77 12-12-2008, 07:58 AM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by big ken Hey Calvin & Obie, Is a good all star say 10' worth $275.00 wrapped & ready to go? Hey Kenny in my opinion it's a bit high considering it's graphite without a warranty. Maybe you can use the non warranty for leverage and get the price down under $200 and even then the rod needs to be is immaculate condition. I bought a 9 ft factory All Star Cobia Special (one piece, perfection guides, fuji components, eva foam, fancy wrap) last spring off a guy for $75 if that helps you. __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #78 12-12-2008, 08:38 AM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah 275 seems a bit high for a non personal custom without a warranty. and be sure graphite is really want you want. __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #79 12-12-2008, 09:18 AM linda&ernie Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Panama City Beach Posts: 279 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey PIKIL06, Will and Obie hit the nail on the head about t90l and 8's being the right tool for the job on a pier especialy compared to a 696L. The taper on that blank is to fast for pier fishing you will throw more baits of. Whith your mitchel i would use a 60 for the collector than to your 40 fuji. with 15 to 20#. Looks like an extreme choke down , but works fine with 20#and under. My favorite set for 8-8'6 king rod is 60,40,25,16,10,10 tip. casts as good as any oversized guide set and you keep minimal weight of the blank. Dont use 4 guides or it will be boarderline buggywip ha ha ha have to remember that one for rod characteristic term. __________________ www.cavittscustoms.com _____________________________________________________________ #80 12-12-2008, 09:22 AM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The master has spoken! No more T80L or T90L it is BTW, I've been waiting to use that new smiley __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #81 12-12-2008, 09:47 AM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i was just about to call you ernie... __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #82 12-12-2008, 10:18 AM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, looks like im gonna meet up with ernie and talk about this som, but its looking like... straightup king rod for slingin ciggys and ly. mostly pier use. gator T80L 5 piece guide setup stainless collector: 60 Fuji Hardloy: 40, 25, 16 Fuji Silicone Carbide: 10 tip Fuji DPSSD Deluxe Soft Touch Seat, Size 22 12" EVA Foam Butt 4" EVA Foam Foregrip __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #83 12-12-2008, 02:32 PM clubhunter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Windermere, Florida Posts: 564 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is that Cobia engraved on the side of the reel plate? Who did that? I have the 596 and its a great light rod for macks. I will say the action in the 80L seems to be slower (more bend through the whole blank). To do over I would go with the 80L because I like the slower action. As far as the guides, I've used both wire and composite guides( alconites) and have done a mix like your doing. If doing wire only, do the 5 guide set-up with alconite tip. If you want to use the composites or mix, look at the New Concept Guide set-up. The choke down is quicker and you use more guides and smaller. My Cobia rod is a GUSA 8'6" MEGA MAG with a black 60 perfection collector and it goes down to the BNAG 30,20or16, 2-12's,2-10's and a 10 tip all black. I will only be using power pro with it and it will only be used during cobia season. I've used it a couple of times down in S'Florida and it throws the jigs great. If I knew I was going to build a rod for both jigs and bait and only use mono, then I would go wire all the way except for the tip. Seem to be a little more versatile and they certainly look better. Just my 2 cents from all the previous research that I have done and read. _____________________________________________________________ #84 12-12-2008, 02:53 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yeah, ernie suggested all stainless except SiC tip, so ill prob go that route with the sizes from above. 5 total, on an 8' __________________ _____________________________________________________________ #85 12-12-2008, 07:26 PM clubhunter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Windermere, Florida Posts: 564 Gator Blanks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just got back from Mudhole and talked with Todd. He did confirm Chaos had bought them about a year ago but now apparently Chaos has gone out of business. They do have another source to build the same blanks from a company out of Stuart Fl. They placed an order with them last week and said they will be in soon. He said the quality will be better and the price will stay the same. They will still be spiral but the raised bumps will be not as high and more friendly to wrapping thread. Also the dreaded crooked tips will be minimized. Thought I would pass the news on! Rick _____________________________________________________________ #86 12-13-2008, 12:04 AM kingling Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: pensacola beach pier Posts: 1,277 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thanks for the info rick __________________ Ben Arnold _____________________________________________________________ #87 12-13-2008, 09:48 AM bartyb Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Jacksonville Florida Posts: 12 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by clubhunter He said the quality will be better and the price will stay the same. They will still be spiral but the raised bumps will be not as high and more friendly to wrapping thread. Also the dreaded crooked tips will be minimized. Thought I would pass the news on! Rick Well thats great news I'm going to build a T90H (as there are no L's left)...I want it set up like you guys do it, Big "old school" wire rings and all...Would one of you builders mind giving me your preferred ring spacing specs for the T90? Also the number of and sizes for the guides...I believe it was 50-12? I'll be over there in March looking for some Cobes and I want to have this rod for that, I have uses for it here on the East Coast as well so, Your assistance is appreciated. Thanks, Bart _____________________________________________________________ #88 12-13-2008, 10:49 AM clubhunter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Windermere, Florida Posts: 564 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by bartyb Well thats great news I'm going to build a T90H (as there are no L's left)...I want it set up like you guys do it, Big "old school" wire rings and all...Would one of you builders mind giving me your preferred ring spacing specs for the T90? Also the number of and sizes for the guides...I believe it was 50-12? I'll be over there in March looking for some Cobes and I want to have this rod for that, I have uses for it here on the East Coast as well so, Your assistance is appreciated. Thanks, Bart Bart, If you are going to leave the rod 9ft then you need to start with a 70, 50, 30, 20, 16 and then your tip. What kind of reel and line are you going to use? If anyone else has a better setup please step in. _____________________________________________________________ #89 12-13-2008, 02:01 PM bartyb Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Jacksonville Florida Posts: 12 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow, A 70 huh...What manufacturer,Perfection? or something else? I know Fuji doesnt go that big,plus I want the wire frames anyway. I'm used to building surf rods for East coast surf fishing. I pretty much 99% throw conventionals in the surf, Abu 6500, 5500, Penn 525 Mags etc.. on 11-14' rods for Pomps Whiting and Drum... When I build what we call a crossover or dual rung (spinning or conventional) I use the Fuji Concept "Lowriders" otherwise I use BMNAG or CMNAG unless the customer wants to save some $$... I want to build the T90 like you guys do it though, it will be used for throwing 1.5-3oz jigs for Cobia over there and Snook down at Sebastian. Now that poses the question, Will a 90H throw a 1.5oz jig? or would I be better served with the 90L? I just dont want to be under gunned on a Cobia or over slot Sebastian Inlet Slob Snook or Bull Reds. How do those wire frames deal with braid? I just want that "specialty rod" and you guys seem to live by them so I guess they work well like you set them up. As for the reel...Not sure yet, I like braid on spinners, I'm the exact opposite on inshore stuff than I am with my surfcasting gear, Spinners all the way,nothing really high end, Shimano Stradics,Daiwa TDSOL,Abu CD7000,Pfluegar Medalists...I tend to be hard on my inshore stuff so I dont spend too much on it, I build my own rods and rebuild when the get F'd up. I was going to go with the 90H because the L's are all gone from Mudhole adn they aren't sure when the new series will be avail. So I was just going to go ahead with the 90H. I'm open to reel suggestions as well. _____________________________________________________________ #90 12-13-2008, 03:06 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's some numbers which work for me, your mileage may vary. Ring size 70,50,40,25,20 Tip12. From the rod butt 21" to the front of the reel seat. From front of reel seat 29" to middle of stripper, then 16" to next guide, 14" to next, 12" to next, 10" to next then tip. I think a T90H would be a bit much for throwing 1.5 ounce jigs. and by the way Mudhole is out of the t90h's as well. __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #91 12-13-2008, 03:18 PM Calvin #1 Hardtail! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Navarre Posts: 908 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Obie Mudhole is out of the t90h's as well. Maybe The Rod Room has some left? but they are more expensive. __________________ Calvin Martin *http://www.myspace.com/lopcalvin* *LordsofPain.net - WWE Wrestling News & Results* _____________________________________________________________ #92 12-13-2008, 03:38 PM Jigslinger Super Moderator... Sounds important don't it! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 486 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Obie Here's some numbers which work for me, your mileage may vary. Ring size 70,50,40,25,20 Tip12. From the rod butt 21" to the front of the reel seat. From front of reel seat 29" to middle of stripper, then 16" to next guide, 14" to next, 12" to next, 10" to next then tip. I think a T90H would be a bit much for throwing 1.5 ounce jigs. and by the way Mudhole is out of the t90h's as well. Thanks for posting that Obie. That will come in handy. __________________ Rob _____________________________________________________________ #93 12-13-2008, 03:40 PM bartyb Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Jacksonville Florida Posts: 12 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Obie...May not be worried about it if I cant get the blank though...I HATE it when you find a blank that you love and then they're GONE lamiglass did that with the old GSB1664 13'10" (the Holy Grail of East Coast Pompano surf rods as far as I'm concerned) I got 4 of them and they had like 13 left on the close-out, I was going to get 5 more and just hold on to them but someone bought them out Ya snooze ya lose I guess... Well, If I cant get the T90's what would be the closest blank? _____________________________________________________________ #94 12-13-2008, 04:50 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by bartyb Thanks Obie...May not be worried about it if I cant get the blank though...I HATE it when you find a blank that you love and then they're GONE lamiglass did that with the old GSB1664 13'10" (the Holy Grail of East Coast Pompano surf rods as far as I'm concerned) I got 4 of them and they had like 13 left on the close-out, I was going to get 5 more and just hold on to them but someone bought them out Ya snooze ya lose I guess... Well, If I cant get the T90's what would be the closest blank? That's a good question, I'll be looking for a fiberglass replacement as well. __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #95 12-13-2008, 04:54 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by Jigslinger Thanks for posting that Obie. That will come in handy. No problem, also consider that you can move the stripper up or down a few inches to make the rod handle different. The T90L I use for king fishing has the stripper 31 inches out from the reels seat, I feel it lets me use more of the top part of the rod for throwing baits (in theory anyway). __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #96 12-13-2008, 05:14 PM Jigslinger Super Moderator... Sounds important don't it! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 486 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Obie and Thank You snobbler for passing on that information. I ended up with 2 L's and 1 H. They haven't made it here yet but I should get them Monday or Tuesday. Hey Obie, that setup works for the H's too? __________________ Rob _____________________________________________________________ #97 12-13-2008, 05:22 PM Obie Ciggy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cantonment Florida Posts: 1,128 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes it works on both. You can also adjust the distance of the reel seat from the butt to meet your needs, in my opinion opt longer than shorter on the butt length. __________________ Go Fishing you can't catch them sitting on the couch!!! _____________________________________________________________ #98 12-13-2008, 05:29 PM Jigslinger Super Moderator... Sounds important don't it! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO. Posts: 486 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks . __________________ Rob _____________________________________________________________ #99 12-14-2008, 10:01 AM fishhead0429 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 274 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 70 ring is pacbay _____________________________________________________________ #100 12-14-2008, 06:45 PM pikil06 Van Mitchell Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 76 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I got my order in with ernie and hopin to pick it up in about a week or 2, cant wait! Thanks everyone for all your input and ideas, I really think this will turn out great! Also picked up that yak from Rich and love it! Cant wait to get it in the water |