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BenFishin
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen some people fish for kings on a two rod system in south florida.  It seems like a system that could work fairly well.  I dont see that much around here.

Side question. When rigging your baitfish, whats the best place to hook it?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calvin wrote:
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Some guys on the pier years ago showed me how to snell a hook onto sevenstrand.  I don't remember how.  Does anybody out there know?  


 It's in this thread posted by me almost 2 years ago. It's the 5th one down posted under "guest".


Whoops! There it is!  Thanks, Calvin.  Great video.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BenFishin wrote:
I've seen some people fish for kings on a two rod system in south florida.  It seems like a system that could work fairly well.  I dont see that much around here.

Side question. When rigging your baitfish, whats the best place to hook it?


While it is an effective way to catch fish it is also the most likely way to anger people up here in the Panhandle. The piers up here are usually way too crowed for Trolly rigs and then to have a rod fixed on bottom is a recipe for horrible tangles which stops EVERYONES fishing. The way to go is to use the wind and current to drift baits. Just as effective and becomes a cooperative effort with every one. Not so much annoyance when you get the hang of it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK guys, I just tied a couple of those figure 8's and I'm liking it. It took less than 1/3 of the time that to takes to wrap them like I've been doing.  I 've been making leaders for 35 years and never heard of this knot. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case anyone is interested, I just bought 600 yds of 18# sevenstrand for $13 delivered, attched e-bay link below. If I get it, it's a deal. I'll use it for spanish and clear clear water. They don't have 27#, already checked.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SEVENSTRAND-U...%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I'm like a kid with a new toy. I just wrapped some leader ends and figure 8 knotted the other end. Believe it or not, the wrapped end broke not the figure 8 knot. I don't know why, but I'm sold. Now I just tried something else that I thought I'd share. I cut the sevenstrand with heavy duty kitchen shears.....they cut it like sewing thread. Maybe everyone else knows about this too, and I'm the last one in the universe to know.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a pair of rusty old scissors (sharp though), in my box just for that reason.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FishAddict wrote:
In case anyone is interested, I just bought 600 yds of 18# sevenstrand for $13 delivered, attched e-bay link below. If I get it, it's a deal. I'll use it for spanish and clear clear water. They don't have 27#, already checked.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SEVENSTRAND-U...%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

He has 60 lb. listed for the same price too.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jigslinger wrote:
FishAddict wrote:
In case anyone is interested, I just bought 600 yds of 18# sevenstrand for $13 delivered, attched e-bay link below. If I get it, it's a deal. I'll use it for spanish and clear clear water. They don't have 27#, already checked.

http://cgi.ebay.com/SEVENSTRAND-U...%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

He has 60 lb. listed for the same price too.

I got my leader material in the mail today, 18 and 60, $23.00 delivered. I won't have to buy any for a long time if ever! Thanks for the heads up.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:10 am    Post subject: How I tie my king leaders Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: How I tie my king leaders Reply with quote

For your single strand leaders, the 'haywire twist' is recommended to tie on hooks and swivels.  Here's Mark Sosin showing how to tie it:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haywire is the way I do it. No little knubby tag end to slice you up when handling the leader with a fish on it, and less to snag on when in the water next to other baits. Obviously you still have the treble hook there but the clean snap off of the haywire leaves one less place for line to catch.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the first time one sinks a tag end of single strand in their finger from merely clipping it, is when most give up on single strand or learn to make a proper haywire twist connection.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sevenstrand all the way  
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrownMarlin wrote:
sevenstrand all the way  


I like sevenstrand, too.  Has anybody tried AFW Surfstrand 1X7 leader?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sevenstrand all the way  


I like sevenstrand, too.  Has anybody tried AFW Surfstrand 1X7 leader?


Yes.. its good too
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like to snell to a #4 mustad 4x strong black treble hook, and then i figure 8 to the swivel. i usually tie my leader around 18 inches. thats a little long for me, but if i need to cut a hook off, it leaves me plenty to tie on another hook without having to do another entire leader. if i cut a hook off and tie on another, i just do the figure 8 at the hook, but i still like the snell better.  
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seanspots wrote:
I love single strand.Malin stealth or hardwire.30#-40#
100# krok swivels
1/0 2x Owner trebles (the friggin' bomb ass hook btw).

4-5 barrel wraps,2-3 haywire wraps,then 3-4 more barrel wraps.

But hey,everyone has their preferences!


yours is just to damn complicated
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nb&twil wrote:
ive caught plenty of fish on single strand, but it seems to kink easier therefore you need to replace it more often. i have caught many fish on the same seven strand leader when they are thick and im too lazy to switch. its not the best idea, but i sure wouldnt feel good about doing it with single strand.


i member last month i caught my limit of kings on the same leader also a couple of spanish to


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