King fishin frustration!

BrownMarlin · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: King fishin frustration!

MANNNNN! There was some issues trying to king fish yesterday

Guys throwing straight down wind and wondering why everyone was throwing over them.

For instance, on the east side, near the SE corner, with the wind coming out of the SW,

would throw NE with a dead cig, down wind towards the middle of the east side and leave it ...

Needless to say...bait stayed on top, I mean on top

of the water, and No bitie

I'm sure there were a few other people that were there yesterday that had issues similiar??

Not to mention... leaving your rod where you are fishing and going to get another bait, only to come back and see your rod has been moved and

fishing where your rod was.

I'm sorry maybe it has just been a LONG time since we've had a pier BUT, I thought there was some common courtesy when we did?

robertyb · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: King fishin frustration!

I have never been shy about telling them nicely where they need to throw and why. I will also say excuse me, you just took my spot and elbow right back in. Most folks do not mind being told what they are doing wrong if it is done in a nice way.
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seanspots · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject:

He he,I feel your pain.I had some googan say,"in fishin' for money,courtesy goes out the window." Some hillbilly that thinks he is bass fishing in the FLW tour.This is pier fishing I replied and the golden rule applies,"do unto others as you would want done to you.I don't know,maybe times have changed and courtesy has flown the coop.I feel it is time for a group therapy session next time and "explain" to those that do not respect the way it is done,how it it is done.

Nite Legend · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:38 pm Post subject:

It's called common SENSE, which some people don't have... Off the front for instance someone standing in the front middle of the pier doesn't need to be throwing all the way to the west corner and crosing everybody up!!!

Some of the stuff is absolutely ridiculous... If it were too keep up too much there might be bigger issuess on the pier...

Mack_Attack2009 · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject:

Guys lets face it. There is always going to be somebody that ruins it for everybody else. I may only be a young gun so to speak, but I know that pier fishing isnt what it used to be....I had a guy on Okaloosa last year that was standing beside me grab my king rod while I was tryin to work a 30lb king and he broke it and said (now try to hit me while that rod again asshole).....People have no respect anymore
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seanspots · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject:

Nite Legend · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject:

Would have damn sure got the rest of that rod shoved somewhere the sun don't shine!!!!

Mack_Attack2009 · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject:

Oh I cracked the dude over the head with the bottom half of it. I dont think ive ever been so angry that I just completely lost control of myself, but I did that day.
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seanspots · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject:

Mack_Attack2009 · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject:

He took a trip to ERville that day
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MS PAT · King Mackerel Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Posts: 160

THE "WILLIES", "DIBERTS", OR PLAIN %^&%$^&%^ ARE OUT IN FORCE ON ALL THE PIERS. SOME DAYS IT IS BETTER, SOME DAYS WORSE. I STOOD NEXT TO A GUY WITH A 14 FOOT SURF ROD AT THE END OF OIP WITH A REEL THAT COULDN'T HOLD 100 YARDS OF LINE, WITH A DROP DOWN BOTTOM RIG ON IT, WITH A WHOLE SQUID ON ONE HOOK AND A PIECE OF CIG ON THE OTHER.

HAPPY REMORA HUNTING! THEN HE TELESCOPES THIS TELEPHONE POLE OF A ROD BACK DOWN, SITS DOWN AND PUTS UP AN UMBRELLA

WE TOLD HIM

BUT HE DIDN'T COMPREHEND ENGLISH, SPANISH, OR CURSING...BUT AT LAST, HE DID MOVE BACK DOWN THE PIER WITH HIS PEERS....... WE ALL GOT UM, BUT WE STILL CATCH FISH IN SPITE OF ALL THE OBSTACLES...

HAPPY HOOKIN' - GOOGANS, DILBURTS, AND @$$&^%$# ARE FAIR GAME

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jewfish · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject:

I've taken to asking once nicely, then I follow with an icy glare. If that doesn't do it, lines get cut. Set lines that are abandoned are reeled up, rig removed and then redeployed with the line tied to the rail.

Kingfshr · Cobia Joined: 15 Jul 2009 Posts: 425

Last thur we informed a guy that no trolley's allowed. He had set it up in the middle of the T and was headed to his chair under his umbrella. He was cool about it and reeled it in. I guess later on he saw why they aren't
allowed.

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PCityRedfisher · Spanish Mackerel Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 54

blaminack · Billfish Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 762

Yeah last night was one of the worst times as far as this goes that I have seen. I honestly wish that had banned the shark fishing from the pier because the ones that I have been seeing have no respect at all. I am fighting a king, my first from the pier and there is a guy in a rubber row boat about to tangle me up. There seemed to be an unusual amount of folks that didn't know the drill. There was one guy about to cast a bubble rig among all of the snobbling baits, and I showed him how that wouldn't work and he understood and threw it from the side. But I just got the ugly stares from the Shark guys while King fishing because they were wanting to get their lines out, all the while the guy in the row boat was just drifting around in the current and wind. I got frustrated and left. I may talk to those guys in the future and see if I can't work it out so my trips are scheduled for times when they are not coming.
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Nite Legend · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject:

The shark fishing on the pier should be banned during any kind of daylight hours.. I loved how they just pulled up to the middle of the T all the way to the SW corner and just sat there in the way.. That guy in the row boat was ridiculous..

I would like to see them try that

during ling season.. That guy in the boat would have been

BrownMarlin · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject:

too bad the kings didn't decide to run

or the poons decide to start eating

"there are lines wrapping me up "

"

hey! watch out!

" "hey...hey...

"

Yeah Ling season

he wouldn't even have made it to the end

Nite Legend · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject:

jewfish · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject:

I know a couple of people who shark fish that are ok. These are mostly guys who king fish also and they know the drill. However, and I hate to say this, but so many of them are freaking meathead showoffs who couldn't catch much of anything else if they tried to, especially the yahoos from North Alabama, Tennessee and Kentucky who might come down a couple times a year because they wiped out all the big cats in the local pond.

True, the pier makes money off them too and I guess they have just as much "right" to fish as we do, I just wish they would exercise some courtesy and pick up their damn trash in the morning.

BrownMarlin · Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject:

I'm not saying I don't like shark fishing but you hit the nail on the head when you said "common courtesy" or "don't know the drill"

One of the guys setting up to shark fish said when asked, and I quote "Have you guys caught any big ones lately? "No. I haven't fished for them for many years"

And yet you come out and set-up before dark mind you when shark fishing is not allowed

and take over the pier including rubber row boat in the water at the end of the pier

blaminack · Billfish Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 762

Well maybe what we need to do is approach them as a group all at once and ask politely and point out that the king run doesn't let up until dark and that all of us intend to fish it until it is over. They are planning on staying most of the night anyways. 15 more minutes will not hurt them, and maybe if they understood how many are being affected by their actions and the aggravation that it is causing then we could show them a more courteous way. I would rather not get into the whole cutting lines and cussing and anger method. They are in fact not allowed to be shark fishing during day light hours. That means the mister rowboat shouldn't be in the way during the most productive times of the day. I have nothing against their ability to fish, just as long as they do it when they are supposed to.
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blaminack · Billfish Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 762

I believe the sign at the gate says no reels larger than a 4/0 before dark, or at least something to that effect.
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mr_gs-r · Cigar Minnow Joined: 28 Jul 2009 Posts: 14

Yeah i feel your pain...im no local by any means but its easy for me to tell the guys who have pier experience and the guys who are tourists trying out pier fishing for the first time. I always try to give older guys and people who seem to be really serious about the fishing the "right of way". Im a young guy (23) so if anyone offers advice im all ears, of course i always verify the info because theres alot of bs floating around.

When we were down there last weekend we were out on sat afternoon trying our luck on the pier, first off it was so crowded it wasnt even funny, second the freaking pier walkers would steal my damn fishing spot everytime i walked away from the rail to either take a fish off or rebait! That was very frustrating espically when the spanish bite was on hard!

While i was out there i was thinking the whole time how it would be nice if there were emerald coast forum shirts or hats or heck just nametags so i could pop off a few questions or strike up a conversation with some of the forum folks...we need to work on someting like that guys.

I really wanted to get on a king while i was gown there, but the rail on the end was so packed that i didnt even try to get a spot. I was pleased with the 10 heeper spanish i hooked in about 45 min though, that was a blast.

seanspots · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:03 am Post subject:

Tiderider · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:34 am Post subject:

Yesterday I worked up a 30+ on a hardtail, the fish just wouldn't commit to my big bait then went over and ate his smaller hardtail the googan next to me (without glasses) was drifting down wind. His drag with completely loose and the fish instantly bird nested his spool. I tried to help him out but the 40 yards of 60 lb test on his reel was a complete knot. The fish finally came unhooked much to the favor of his 12 pound test rod. They live among us.
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kidcobia · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:48 am Post subject:

Come on now its pier fishing, it makes more of a challenge to have to weave through spider webs of lines and idiots...........

ok it pisses me off just the same but an elbow here and there a rod but to the chest and just being loud and obnoxious will help out on those days crowded with garbs.

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pierbird · Bonito Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 90 Location: Austell

All this talk of pier fishing
I'm glad things haven't changed
can't wait till Sept. to get down there
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robertyb · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject:

jaceboat · Cobia Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 279 Location: pensacola

i have meet several members while walkin down the pier. the 2 that come to mind are Rick (Rick) and Rob (jigslinger)
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BrownMarlin · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:55 pm Post subject:

blaminack · Billfish Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 762

Sorry bro I vented and was chilled out already.
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seanspots · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject:

BrownMarlin · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject:

I know man.. So did I...Just jokin! I just posted this thread to see who also had an opinion on some of the yo yo's that go out and don't have a clue

and to vent a lil of coarse

blaminack · Billfish Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 762

Oh am not saying that I was done. As a matter of fact just thinking about this crap ticks me off all over again.
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Mitch · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject:

All the garbs use line that is too heavy so it is hard for them to throw into the wind with 50# mono and using 7' noodle stick with the plastic on the gips. The cig that is J-hooked in the middle of the back flies off every time and this guy asks me "how you hookin them things? in the eyes?" I just said," yep but my line is lighter and my rod is a little longer"

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FishinDon · Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject:

Hey guys,
I hate obvious stupidity on the pier, but it happens. What is the answer? I think it probably lies between the polite redirection, an icy stare, or maybe the loud obnoxious remark now and then. One thing for certain, there is power in numbers and I am sure a few emerald coast forum members could do a lot to educate those who are not pier- cultured enough to get along with the rest of the normal fishing crowd. I do get to visit P'cola and P.C. I usually go to P'cola for new years. No amount of stupidity can stop me from pier fishing but ignorance can certainly ruin a fellow's day. Please keep fishing and writing reports and when I come, I promise to try to meet some forum members and fish. Keep a line in the water. Don
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FishAddict · King Mackerel Joined: 11 Jul 2009 Posts: 175

The meek shall inherit the earth, not the end of the pier......

jonschikora101 · Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:05 am Post subject:

Ihave bean fishing pensacola since navarre was des. The people will even out when the peir is re opened and we wont have to worry about to many freaking people not nowing what they are doing
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ghettowrapped · Redfish Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 115

do unto others before they do unto you.

Jhurley27 · Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject:

If you want to vent out, jabbing a shoemaker into the face of a googan always seems to work out

All kidding aside, googans will make anyone mad, even the most tolerant people.

Like last week. I am throwing at some reds in the shallow, when the guy next to me takes both of his baits (hardtails with egg sinkers) and bombs the school and they swim away. I asked him politely to not do that again and he said "

you stupid kid

, you no nothing about fishing for reds." He was using a 12 foot rod, 70-80# powerpro line, and a size 4/0 baitcasting reel, with a stinger to put the cherry on his ice cream. Who doesn't know anything???

outlawsr <0)))>{ · Billfish Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 744

about the guy who broke your rod I know for a fact if some asshole breaks my @$%^ they are going to get it stuck in there friggin leg arm or back because im going to stab them with the dull end and its going to hurt you dont break or steal our stuff right guys then i will fall down and say i slipped it was an accedent
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Big Mack · Bonito Joined: 15 Jul 2009 Posts: 95

one time I had on this huge 25lb mackeral. i have only caught a 10lber before so this one was big for me. i was fighting it for a while and when I got it ready for the gaffer, he accidently gaffed it wrond and he cut the line with the gaff